Dan Wetzel pointed out some ridiculous rankings courtesy of the USA/Coaches and Harris polls: namely, that 4-0 Iowa (#17, #14) is ranked lower than 3-1 Penn State (#13, #12) after beating them 21-10 in Happy Valley; and that Oregon (#25, #23) remains lower than Cal (#18, #21) despite crushing them 42-3 just days ago.
Those are pretty bad examples of inconsistencies in the polls. Teams with the same record, where team A has beaten Team B, should see Team A ranked higher in almost any conceivable case. If Team A has a better record, it's inexcusable (as in Iowa-Penn State) and if Team A has the same record and obliterated Team B, it's also inexcusable (as in Oregon's case).
These inconsistencies tend to resolve themselves eventually, either by the pollsters gradually correcting them or the teams themselves losing to make the problem moot. But the examples above are particularly egregious, and Wetzel rightly points out that the AP poll—not part of the BCS—does a better job than its BCS counterparts.
Of course, Wetzel is an anti-BCS, pro-playoff cheerleader, so he takes particular joy in pointing out the shortcomings of the system. But is the poll conducted his peers really that much better? Though they got Iowa-Penn State and Oregon-Cal right, here are some of the other problems I see in the most recent AP poll:
- #7 USC (3-1) lost 16-13 at unranked Washington (2-2) - This isn't a classic inconsistency as defined above; Washington has a worse record so they can be ranked lower. The trouble is that this early in the poll, a top ten team has a loss to an unranked foe. There are only two other teams in the poll with a loss to an unranked team. This is a case where voters look ahead and see a better future for the Trojans than they've encountered so far—and also a case where the poll got "trapped" because Ohio State was near the top ten, and they didn't want to move USC lower. Finally, it's a case of inertia and bias. USC has been in the top ten so long it's hard to believe they should ever fall out.
- #8 Oklahoma (2-1) lost 14-13 at home (essentially) to #20 BYU (3-1) - This result *is* a classic inconsistency, and a pretty big one at 12 slots. The reasons for this ranking include bias (Oklahoma is a major BCS program, BYU is in the Mountain West), mitigation of BYU's win (Bradford got hurt), dismissal of the result due to close score, and most of all, counting more recent results (BYU's loss to FSU) as more important. The latter comes from simply moving teams up and down the rungs week to week, as pollsters in all the polls do.
- #21 Mississippi (2-1) lost 16-10 to unranked South Carolina (3-1) - Voters are assuming that the Gamecocks' win is a fluke, and that the teams will re-order themselves soon enough. That must be what they were assuming a few weeks ago when undefeated Houston was behind victim Oklahoma State. Now that Houston beat Texas Tech, they've grudgingly put the Cougars ahead of the Cowboys. But South Carolina doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, despite only losing to #18 Georgia 41-37.
- #20 BYU (3-1) lost to FSU; unranked South Florida (4-0) beat FSU - This is getting into the transitive property, which often fails in predicting future winners but should be looked at in certain cases when ranking teams—the main case being when an undefeated team is involved. If BYU can lose to FSU 52-38 at home, and undefeated USF can beat FSU 17-7 on the road, shouldn't South Florida be ranked ahead of the Cougars? I would think so. They aren't, though, since USF wasn't in the poll last week and pollsters are reluctant to put them in after Matt Grothe was lost for the season, thinking they won't last; BYU's win over Oklahoma keeps them in the poll; and nobody likes the Big East this year.
These kinds of inconsistencies are exactly the type of thing I do my best to avoid when making the Sportsratings subjective Top 25. The order of teams may vary quite a bit from what you see in the other polls (especially early on), but they won't violate the principles I've noted above, unless it's basically unavoidable (Team A beats Team B beats Team C beats Team A, for example).
Ultimately this all doesn't matter too much since the polls tend to reorganize pretty well by the time bowl games are picked, but fans are annoyed when they beat a team only to see that team still ranked ahead of them if the records are comparable. Everyone has biases, and only through the use of some sound principles can we be sure we aren't favoring certain teams for the wrong reason—usually laziness.
Urban Meyer an idiot for playing Tebow too long
Urban Meyer made it clear before the game: no pansies allowed.
Asked if he would hold players with the flu out of Saturday's game with Kentucky, he said "absolutely not" and that it would be "one of the major errors in coaching history" if he did so.
It's now looking like one of the season's major blunders to leave an obviously ailing Tim Tebow in the game when the outcome was already decided.
Not that playing Tebow in the first place was wrong. He clearly wasn't suffering on the field and wanted to play. Tebow wasn't listed among those with swine flu, even though he took the same plane as those with the ailment. Tebow had a "respiratory illness" of undisclosed nature. But Florida took a 31-0 lead in the first quarter, and that should have been enough for Meyer. Especially since backup Johnathan Brantley needs experience for next year, and Meyer had talked about ways to lessen the burden on Tebow. What better way than to let an obviously sick player get some rest after doing his job?
Apparently that isn't in tough-guy Meyer's philosophy any more. "Got to get better and go play," he said about the sick players. "You go as hard as you can."
It's that kind of attitude that has college players dying in fall camp almost every year. The idea that players are slacking and have to be kicked into shape is popular among coaching because, in a lot of cases, it's true. Coaches are there to push players to their maximum performance, and if it happens to be in the heat of summer, how are they to know that it's because of heat stroke? But because they can't know, they shouldn't assume there isn't a real problem.
Meyer's attitude didn't cause Tebow's injury, but it may have blinded him to doing what he should have done: be very conservative with Tebow. Getting him out on the field was the right move, but getting him off the field soon would have been even better; it was well known before the game that Kentucky was an overmatched foe with or without Tebow's presence. Although he could just as easily have been hurt in the first quarter, there was no reason to play him more than was necessary, and 31-0 and a full quarter of playing was the perfect time to pull him.
Now after Tebow suffered a proven concussion and hospital stay, how will Meyer approach his recovery? With the same cavalier attitude he took toward sick players before? Is Tebow expected to "get better and play" and "go as hard as he can" next week against LSU?
For Tebow's sake, let's hope Meyer is listening to the team's doctors and if Tebow needs to sit, he should sit. Florida should be able to beat LSU with its defense alone, and the rest of the offense is no slouch. If they can't, then so be it; even one loss won't prevent Florida from being in the national championship as we saw last year, especially if it comes in a game Tebow doesn't play. But if he's hurt again it could cost the Gators a lot, and perhaps Tebow even more. There's no certain way to avoid injury in football but taking a conservative approach to the health of your players is not the bad thing that Meyer paints it to be.
September 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM in commentary | Permalink | Comments (0)
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